Elisa Mariño
3 min readAug 29, 2022

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I see we are at the point of ad hominem. XD

I've addressed the point: abortion is not murder, no matter how many times you repeat it. Your premise is false, so all reasoning you make based in a false premise is also false. You just cling to a lie, even if reduction to absurd shows it is a lie.

If you don't understand that, the problem is not "mind reading", it is that you don't understand basic logic. I've explained with plenty of examples why the anti abortion policies are pro-murdering women, you might not like it, but there are data backing this.

There are not "individual examples". There are plenty of data that show that banning abortion result on increased women deaths because back street abortions and problems at birth. You can google them.

Yes, let's stablish core principles. Do you value life more than body integrity? your actions say no, because you are not pushing for mandatory blood and marrow donation. Your actions say "I do value more body integrity except in pregnancy, where it would never-ever affect me".

You consider murder that a women doesn't donate her body to a phoetus (which is not a person), yet you don't consider murder that a man won't donate his marrow to a baby or a child with leukemia. You problem is that you want us to consider women not letting others use their body as murder, but won't want to consider men in the same position as murderers. Because neither are murderers. There is no murder there. As I keep repeating, your premise that it is murder is false.

I repeat to you: abortion is not murder. Women are people and have a right to body integrity. Therefore, women should be allowed to have abortions whenever they want. I can't be more clear.

At 37 weeks, it would be a planned birth with cesarean. The only situations when there would be an abortion, is non-viability. So your situation is what doesn't happen. If baby is fine and can survive outside the mother, let them survive outside the mother. You practice the planned birth and put it into incubator. But as we know, people like you think women doesn't have a right over their own body.

So if a woman at 37 weeks wants the phoetus outside her because, let's say, she has cancer and need treatment now, of course I would allow her to chose and live if she want to. I guess you would murder her because the phoetus is more important to you and don't want to put it into an incubator (assuming it is viable, which might be not).

You keep saying that you wpould set protections for the lives of the women, but we have seen the reality with Savita. The phoetus was not viable, yet she was murdered because they valued more the phoetus. and the "protections" for women were supposed to exist. You and Ololade are the ones who refuse to address that reality.

Be honest, you don't care about women's lives. Not phoetuses either, since there are ways that you could save phoetuses lives and aren't pushing for laws that would achive that. Like free healthcare and mandatory blood donation (since premature babies need blood transfusion). When I see those laws, I might believe that you value life over body integrity. Until that, I only see men not valuing women's body integrity. And that is not "mind reading", is plain logic.

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Elisa Mariño
Elisa Mariño

Written by Elisa Mariño

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