Let’s recap. When asked about the things that “men put up” with women, you offered a nonanswer. Interesting. :lol:

“ The skewed perspective of a hetero woman.”

You start with an “ad hominem” meant to imply that I must be not rational in opposition to the “rationality” that you presupposed on yourself.

“ You’re watching the dawn break from the West side of a mountain and thinking only other mountains get sun.”

A very ambiguous phrasing that is also an straw man, since I’ve been quite specific in the examples and situations discussed and, in fact, asked you about examples of what you call “putting up with women”.

“We’re can all be horrible people and where you sit on the male/female spectrum doesn’t matter.”

You continue with the strawman with something I didn’t said. Here I must point out that in an internet discussion is quite easy to check what has been really said. So, Attempts to derail conversation would only work with people unsure about their own memories. Umm, that rings a bell. Go figure. :lol:

“You can’t actually believe that women are universally rational people who only complain about things designated “normal”?”

Another strawman. An we have yet to read a single example of women who complain about irrational things, much less about that being something generalized. Again, if you believe that women behave irrationally, is on you to provide data and proof of that.

And here I want to point out that while women usually offer the courtesy of not assuming irrationality on men’s anger until there are proof or any sign on the contrary, you are trying to defend a position where women irrationality is assumed to be irrational until proved otherwise. That on itself is disrespectful, by the way.

So, to conclude:

“ I think a lot of introspection would be revealing, and not in a pleasant way.”

You assume that we haven’t done that introspection. But as it happens, this articles are the result of that introspection. We have made the effort to write down the reasons of our anger, take the time to think about it, contrast our subjective impressions with other people (and since you seem to care about this, with men too). And what do you know? it turns out that the reasons of our anger where rational and understable. Yes, it was revealing, but it seems that it is you who find those revelations unpleasants.

We have yet to see that you do the same and write down all those situations where we have been irrational, where you or those men you speak of have to “put up” with women so we can all analyze if your claims hold up.

By the way, if I have to explain basic things like why 10 minutes late is considered normal in cities and nitpicking if you get too angry about that, while 1 hour without notice is considered rude at best I would wonder if we both live in the same society or if you live in the wilds. Just saying.