Elisa Mariño
3 min read16 hours ago

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No. It is you who keep insisting that men whouldn't be accountable ever. That "equality" is women being accountable for both men's actions and women's actions while men just say "I'm very responsible" but do nothing.

You keep using strawman. A woman who doesn't want to get pregnant is responsible if contraceptives. But if she wants to get pregnant, the logical thing is that she doesn't use them. YOUR error is to assume that since THE MAN didn't wanted children SHE is "as responsible as him" to not get pregnant and SHE should be the one taking contraceptives (even if he could use a condom or take the male pill or have a vaxectomy) so HE won't have children.

No, dear. If HE doesn't want children, HE should make sure contraceptives are used. HE didn't even bother to talk to her to know if SHE wanted children.

Your false assuption is to assume that she only wanted pleasure. But that might not be true at all.

As for the pregnancy, only trans men can get pregnant. And only a pregnant person can decide if they want to continue with the pregnancy. That is a separate decision than becoming a parent, since you can continue a pregnancy, give birth and give the child for adoption so you won't become a parent. Historically, that is what many men have been doing. They got someone pregnant and walk away, no parenting or child support. It was the woman's "problem" and they might or might not appear latter.

Well, if BOTH biological aprents give the child for adoption, the man can not become a parent. But the responsibility is towards the child.

The man have the same rights, he can abort if he is the one pregnant. Or he can try to give the child for adoption if the woman does that too. If not, he is responsible to the child, even if most of the time that is not enforced.

Your whole post show how you don't want equality. You want women to take contraceptives even if they want to become pregnant if the man doesn't want responsability. That is not equality. If the man doesn't want that, HE can have a vasectomy and use a condom (double contraceptive, like many women do). Considering that many women even remove their uterus to make sure that they won't get pregnant, it is telling that men that are sho invested on NO being dads won't have a vasectomy...

Man do have more rights in practice, since many times they won't be expected to take care of the children and won't pay child support. And they know they can get away with it. that is why they don't care to find out if the woman they are having sex with wants children. Or to use contraceptives themselves.

By the way, if a man tampers with a woman's contraception, and after that tricks her into keeping the pregnancy, she would be forced to be a parent if the man doesn't agree to give it for adoption. That happens in many marriages:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reproductive_coercion

I'm sure you would also have excuses for this. So let's be clear, for all you talk about "men having the same rights", I've never seen you talking about men having the same responsabilities. The opposite is true, you are arguing that a man who didn't wanted children, shouldn't bother to use condoms...

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Elisa Mariño
Elisa Mariño

Written by Elisa Mariño

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