So you telling me that EVERY SINGLE WOMAN on Instagram on there hawking JUST makeup and clothes???

So you decide to miss the point and make a strawman to avoid admitting that most influencers make money by promoting brands. And most brands are for clothing and make-up. Then you have the ones who cook, the ones who travel and promote "lifestyles". The ones about decoration… Sure, many of those women are attractive and men look at their pictures. But their main income doesn't come from men's visits, but from the brands who want to promote their stuff to other women.

I mean, it is great for them that you follow them, like their pictures and give them income from publicity. But at the end of the day, they don't know about your existence, you are just one follower among hundredths or thousands. They aren't doing it for you, they are doing it for popularity and money.

Men are going their own way and finally came to the realization that modern women aren't worth the time or trouble to be with nowadays (see #4).

There are 2 types of MGTW. The ones who go their own way and don't care or notice that no one misses them and the ones who post in the forums because they think that going their own way is a punishment to women. I give you a hint, the second isn't going their own way, they are still focused on women who don't really care about their approval.

80% of the women want the top 20% of the men and only 20% of that 80% even QUALIFY for that 20% of men. Those men ALSO have lots of choices.

If that were true, only 20% of people would be coupled. But the marriage rate is higher and people in a couple is also higher. So no matter how many times people like you repeat this, it would be still false. Most people have choices, but the choice you seem focused on ignoring is that no longer people are forced to be coupled. This means that the normal people who are in a couple, have chosen to. Men with average looks and income get married, while men who claim to be on the "top 20%" might remain single despite their claim to "have so many women". At the end of the day, anyone who looks around would see perfectly normal people having no problem finding partners as long as they are respectful to others. They are neighbors, coworkers, friends… If you can't see it, then it is on you.

Ask most women "What do you bring to the table" they will give you a bunch of nonsense and most men are finding you not bringing nothing but "box" and appetite and sorry thats not enough.

Let me think, most women today have full-time jobs and wages, which is what men like you claim to bring to the table. They are also independent, which implies that they know how to take care of themselves as in cooking and other domestic skills (which some men also have developed). They have hobbies and interests, things that they know about… So I'd say that women bring plenty of things to the table. Yet, the fact that you think this is a point tells us that you don't value what women bring to the table. And who would want to be with someone who doesn't value you? At this point, women are better of without the men who think that women bring nothing to the table.

You might want to consider that the problem is not that women bring nothing to the table. But that since now they also bring income, they expect more respect and being valued. The men who fail to provide that respect and think that is enough with them being "breadwinners", are the ones with failed relationships.

Unrealistic expectations is keeping women from getting relationships and getting married NOT CHOICES. YES women might be using contraception more because..

Basic respect as people is not unrealistic. Yet, some men fail at this while justifying with nonsense about not making enough money while their coworkers with similar income have no problem remaining married… Hint: if it was true, there would be a lot fewer people coupled. Women aren't unrealistic, but they don't need to marry anymore. So they only marry people who treat them with respect and they actually like. A wage is no longer enough. So here you basically contradict yourself about women wanting to trap men with pregnancy.

Hookup culture. Why? because of CHOICES.

So here you basically contradict yourself about women wanting to trap men with pregnancy again. If it is about sex without children, then no "trapping men". Which is it?

Men look at how women manuever nowadays. You say women are waiting to have children? cool… but dont wait too long. A childless 40 yo successful man is not having children with a 40 yo woman.. Successful men ALSO have choices. Remember that.

Data show this. Lower maternity rates, with the average age for the first child being older. There are stats for this. Interestingly enough, after complaining about women wanting to "trap men" with pregnancy, now you feel that you need to remind us that we should have children. XD Why? It is almost as if you wanted young women to be desperate to have children so men who would usually be discarded stand a chance… Sadly, I have bad news for you. Successful men are having children with women of similar age. We do know that because there is a very lucrative business for fertility clinics… Then again, why take a look at the people around you when you can repeat the same old talking points?

Too many "masculine" women to choose from.. men want FEMININE women NOT MIKE TYSON for a wife… NOPE.

Your preferences in women are only relevant to the women who like you. But as it happens, plenty of people who doesn't conform find partners. Women that you would call "masculine" find boyfriends and girlfriends. Men who you would call "feminine" or "beta" or "emasculated" or "not successful" find partners. Yet, men who call themselves "alpha" and successful complain about feminism ruining everything…

Umm, what if the real problem (for you) is that women no longer feel compelled to marry and have children while being young? And what if some men counted on women being desperate to marry and have children young so they settle for men who don't respect them?

Women wanted to "trap men" when they weren't allowed to have a bank account or work because the only alternatives were becoming nuns or prostitutes. Now they can work and no longer want to "trap men". Look around, society has already changed, even for traditional "feminine" women because now they have choices.

Honestly? It is good that men have a purpose for themselves. Just accept that women also have a purpose for themselves and it is not to get a man. That is what you fail to understand.